the wt used to be rich for the quality of their public speakers, at the top of the ladder were the dos motivating the brothers on a weekly basis.
some of them used very folksy experiences related to the brothers as motivational tools, when you left the convention those experiences were the talk of the town.
i remember one very well qualified brother serving as do that was constantly using those sort of experiences as part of his arsenal, at one time he related one about a sister that new that she was going to die soon and while meeting with the family and brothers for final preparations she requested to be buried with a fork in her hand.
I think the "Watchtower" comes in at an honourble 3rd position for plagarisam, and proves they have learnt well from there leader Jesus Christ, who comes in at second place for his many plagiarized and famous parables, all stolen from Greek mythology. However if you are familiar with " The Epic of Giligamesh" then at no 1 for plagarisam must surely be the Bible, for its many blatant similarities to the book of Genisis and the character of Jesus.
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my brother attended a college for those who " f..led" up at school and got a second chance to do the exams.
anyway george michael and andy ridgley, were two of those fu..k ups, and my brother was quite friendly with both.
as a result i met george and andy before they found fame with wham.. geri hallaway ( spice girl) also came from watford when she grew up and was a friend of my sister ( her mum a j.w) and i once spoke with geri on the phone when she rang asking to speak with my sister.
DNCall...that was a lovely post, when I have time I will comment further.
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my brother attended a college for those who " f..led" up at school and got a second chance to do the exams.
anyway george michael and andy ridgley, were two of those fu..k ups, and my brother was quite friendly with both.
as a result i met george and andy before they found fame with wham.. geri hallaway ( spice girl) also came from watford when she grew up and was a friend of my sister ( her mum a j.w) and i once spoke with geri on the phone when she rang asking to speak with my sister.
Kate sorry that I thought you were taking the piss xx
The Rebel.
my brother attended a college for those who " f..led" up at school and got a second chance to do the exams.
anyway george michael and andy ridgley, were two of those fu..k ups, and my brother was quite friendly with both.
as a result i met george and andy before they found fame with wham.. geri hallaway ( spice girl) also came from watford when she grew up and was a friend of my sister ( her mum a j.w) and i once spoke with geri on the phone when she rang asking to speak with my sister.
Kate, unless you grew up in Watford, you did not deliver newspapers to Andy Ridgleys home, as he grew up in Bushey Heath, and attended Cassio college in Watford with George Michael whose parents owned a Greek restaurant in Bushey. They both attended Cassio college, as did the three girl back-up singers who appeared on Top of the pops with them when they were " Wham" doing the first hit.
Furthermore Andy Ridgely purchased a nightclub in Rickmansworth,which was co-owned with a group of his former "we" fucked our exams up friends from Cassio college Watford, and my brother was almost apart of that bankrupt adventure.
The Rebel.
my brother attended a college for those who " f..led" up at school and got a second chance to do the exams.
anyway george michael and andy ridgley, were two of those fu..k ups, and my brother was quite friendly with both.
as a result i met george and andy before they found fame with wham.. geri hallaway ( spice girl) also came from watford when she grew up and was a friend of my sister ( her mum a j.w) and i once spoke with geri on the phone when she rang asking to speak with my sister.
Not sure why "talesin" got a red thumb, but it kind of reminds me of "Juke Box Jury" a T.V music show where songs were judged and given a " hit" or " miss" by the jury. It's interesting to note the jury that gave misses were often so wrong.
The Rebel.
my brother attended a college for those who " f..led" up at school and got a second chance to do the exams.
anyway george michael and andy ridgley, were two of those fu..k ups, and my brother was quite friendly with both.
as a result i met george and andy before they found fame with wham.. geri hallaway ( spice girl) also came from watford when she grew up and was a friend of my sister ( her mum a j.w) and i once spoke with geri on the phone when she rang asking to speak with my sister.
Krejames " in the town I live we have a well known musical academy and some of the buskers we get are amazing"
The Rebel. Not sure how to relate that comment to my post, but Brian Connolly lead singer of the Sweet born in Glasgow Scotland ended up a drunk in every pub in Rickmansworth until his death. For the record "The Sweet" had 3 consecutive number ones in the Uk, and sold over 5 million albums. I grew up in Rickmansworth just outside Watford, and Brian Connolly was a permanent fixture in the local pubs, or crashed out on a park bench. I know he lived in a council house in Mill- End for a few years, and I know from many of the people that drunk in the pubs he drunk in he was a great guy who had an alcohol problem.
I also remember when I was 6 or 7 Anne Clementson my first puppy love offering to pay me 1 penny for each of my collection of magazine pictures of the band, and I wish I had suggested a kiss instead.
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a very close friend of mine has gotten his letter.
although he was planning to leave willingly, he told me that he can't help but feel a sense of being stabbed in the back by a bunch of self righteous traitors.
he gave tours for years, always telling the visitors "this is the best way of life, i would never change anything here and i'll never regret making this decision to come here.
Don't delay, lets vote is DJS a "dick " or an " ass"?
As a " misguided but well intentioned poster " I will reply with my "no skill and no talented " answer DJS is a "dick". But having had DJS communicate and respond to many of my threads I am not totally convinced. In fact i wouldn't even call him an ass. But don't take my word for it, read his post history, there is no limit to the great and thoughtful comments he has given. And I do appreciate it...thanks
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this post is not to be read by those employed by the w.t who monitor this site.
promise?.
dear board members,.
let me clarify why I started this O.P.
I once started an O.P " Is my friend on the way out of the organization?"
I asked the question based on email communication we shared. This is one his emails:-
"just to start , just to confirm I am a Ministerial Servant, my wife and two of my children are pioneers, my other child left home he could not live within the constraints of our faith"
As our personal emailing continued he opened up more about his concerns on the Royal Commision in Australia eat, ect. Sadly I could not bring him to research on this board, but I had hoped he was on the way out. Very sadly when I contacted him about coming to the football with me this Saturday, ( I now live far from watford, but I am going to the match this Saturday) he replied " I go with P...l J....y , and sit next to Matthew H....y and Ri....g h...n." And as these people are witnesses I got the hint I was not welcome. I guess he compromised his moral and ethical conscience for family and friendship.
Personally who am I to judge? But It does make me appreciate the value of sites like this, because it gives those questioning contact with those that have followed through on similar questions in similar circumstances and have had the guts to leave.
The Rebel.
all these damn years in that damn cult -- remember how they tell you that jehovah looks upon those "who are sighing and groaning" (at all the terrible things being done.... focusing on all the evils and woes of the world and satan's system) -- and that all this sighing & groaning is some sort of mark of holiness?????.
every negative news article, every bad bit of something or circumstance - all support and become part of that woeful mindset.
and we are supposed to keep on being like that, sighing and groaning our lives away to receive some sort of damn mark from an angel's ink horn, to mark us as worthy of life..
all these damn years in that damn cult -- remember how they tell you that jehovah looks upon those "who are sighing and groaning" (at all the terrible things being done.... focusing on all the evils and woes of the world and satan's system) -- and that all this sighing & groaning is some sort of mark of holiness?????.
every negative news article, every bad bit of something or circumstance - all support and become part of that woeful mindset.
and we are supposed to keep on being like that, sighing and groaning our lives away to receive some sort of damn mark from an angel's ink horn, to mark us as worthy of life..
Muddy Waters " Sighing and Groaning" is not a mark of holiness...! ( Rant !)
The Rebel. ( A) So true, it gives very little pleasure, and is quite embarrassing. I only wish I had been deaf and damaged my hearing aid when I sat through all those meetings, because then I would have appreciated the merciful tone of silence is better than W.T bullshit.
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